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Hessian Arcturus
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Posted - 2013.07.01 04:01:00 -
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This is an absolute joke of a court case.
EVE online better watch out because alot of us are always posting similar sh*t in local or somewhere. Apparently sarcasm is dead to the world now.
What's your verdict on sarcasm EVE people? It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

Hessian Arcturus
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Posted - 2013.07.01 04:28:00 -
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Sure, if I had simply posted up the video, but let me reiterate the question I'm posing, which is a general discussion about an in game EVE related topic that comes up in most channels...
Hessian Arcturus wrote:
What's your verdict on sarcasm in EVE people?
Either way...shall we let the ISD's decide...
It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

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Posted - 2013.07.01 04:56:00 -
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Mildew Wolf wrote:another thwarted terrorist attack \o/ working as intended
Slightly off topic here (so I apologise) but... Your avatar... Just... Erm... Erm...  It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

Hessian Arcturus
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Posted - 2013.07.01 06:36:00 -
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S Byerley wrote:You couldn't find a more credible source than the wannabe metalhead pacing in front of a gaming library?
I'm subscribed to his channel because some of his reviews on the gaming world are hilarious. His video was the first I'd heard of it...
If you want credability...here. It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

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Posted - 2013.07.01 06:56:00 -
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Six Six Six wrote:Sarcasm dead? I hope not, that's an English pastime.
I shall raise my tea to that...pip pip! It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

Hessian Arcturus
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Posted - 2013.07.01 07:36:00 -
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S Byerley wrote:Hessian Arcturus wrote:I'm subscribed to his channel because some of his reviews on the gaming world are hilarious. His video was the first I'd heard of it...If you want credability... here. Your choice of source says a lot about you is all.
I'll underline that part for you shall I? I like watching a multitute of game reviews, some being idiots some not... Where would you like to go with this? Lol
Darvaleth Sigma wrote:Hessian Arcturus wrote:Six Six Six wrote:Sarcasm dead? I hope not, that's an English pastime. I shall raise my tea to that...pip pip! I'm sorry, but your response makes me severely doubt that you are in fact English... we don't live in the 1800s.
Ah you see, I am English, and I drink a hell of a lot of (some say too much) tea... So... You know lol
But this is side tracking. This tea part was meant comically and sarcastically. Showing all too well how sarcasm doesn't work on the internet.
It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

Hessian Arcturus
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Posted - 2013.07.01 07:52:00 -
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S Byerley wrote:Hessian Arcturus wrote:I'll underline that part for you shall I? I like watching a multitute of game reviews, some being idiots some not... Where would you like to go with this? Lol Mainly that you rage because some youtuber tells you to and not because you bothered to look into it. That makes you just as much of a sheep as the angry soccer moms if you ask me; it's important to be indignant for the right reasons.
Here let me underline something in the original post for you...
Hessian Arcturus wrote: EDIT: If you don't want to watch the youtube vid, links to the news article are in the description. I just find AlphaOmegaSin's reaction brilliant, and it pretty much mirrors my own view on the topic.
But it's okay, you put me in the same category as the soccor mums which can only mean one thing. You think I'm a couger and want in my knickers... It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

Hessian Arcturus
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Posted - 2013.07.01 08:14:00 -
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S Byerley wrote:Hessian Arcturus wrote: Here let me underline something in the original post for you...
But it's okay, you put me in the same category as the soccor mums which can only mean one thing. You think I'm a couger and want in my knickers...
You mean that stuff you read after I called you out? It's a step in the right direction I guess. I urge you to go slightly deeper than "The Daily Caller" though.
Seriously...you're still harping on? And read what exactly lol your replies are starting to make as much sense as an orange with wings but anywho, as much as I would love to tango with you all day long, I have business to attend to, adios mon ami!  It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:27:00 -
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Bischopt wrote:Simetraz wrote:
Not back in time, it has never changed. You must dress a certain way when at work. You can't say certain things to your boss or you get fired. You can't do certain things while in public. The list goes on and on. The internet allows people to say things they would never say if they were face to face. Is that a good or bad thing. A little of both perhaps. In this case the kid would have been better off saying it face to face. Keep in mind the written word has always been a binding contract, so saying something out loud does not always have the same consequences as putting it down on paper. And that is the catch 22 so to speak with the internet.
Like I've said, looking into threats can be a good thing. Throwing people into prison for them is not a good thing. Even if you don't care about the life (or lives) being ruined by bad law(?) enforcement, do you really think as a tax-payer that this is a good idea? If we start putting everyone in prison who has made a violent joke on the internet, all prisons in all the world will see a spike of new inmates every one of which take tax money to keep alive and well. I agree that actions have consequeces, but is 8 years in prison really the right consequece for this particular action? I think not. I hope you think not as well. Altho I don't really care what you think.
Not to mention that prisons (in the UK anyway, unsure about America) are already overcrowded. It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

Hessian Arcturus
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:45:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:Bischopt wrote:Simetraz wrote:
Not back in time, it has never changed. You must dress a certain way when at work. You can't say certain things to your boss or you get fired. You can't do certain things while in public. The list goes on and on. The internet allows people to say things they would never say if they were face to face. Is that a good or bad thing. A little of both perhaps. In this case the kid would have been better off saying it face to face. Keep in mind the written word has always been a binding contract, so saying something out loud does not always have the same consequences as putting it down on paper. And that is the catch 22 so to speak with the internet.
Like I've said, looking into threats can be a good thing. Throwing people into prison for them is not a good thing. Even if you don't care about the life (or lives) being ruined by bad law(?) enforcement, do you really think as a tax-payer that this is a good idea? If we start putting everyone in prison who has made a violent joke on the internet, all prisons in all the world will see a spike of new inmates every one of which take tax money to keep alive and well. I agree that actions have consequeces, but is 8 years in prison really the right consequece for this particular action? I think not. I hope you think not as well. Altho I don't really care what you think. I this case a private citizen filed charges against a person. The police by law can't ignore it, they have to investigate. Obviously they found enough evidence to arrest him and he goes to trial, and now the courts have to decide if he guilty or just foolish. 3 things could have prevented the entire incident. 1 - The kid could have used good judgement (which he didn't or maybe he wasn't joking now wouldn't that be a twist) 2 - The lady could have done nothing, she had to fill out all kinds of paperwork to get the police to respond (think about that) 3 - Change the law to give the police more power to ignore the law and do whatever they want (now that is not a good idea) Last as other have stated the guy is NOT serving a 8 year sentence he is awaiting trial, nothing more. He is still innocent as it stands right now.
Innocent but has been incarcerated for months while his date of his trial was to be decided and come around. Everyone at some point has said something sarcastically that they shouldn't have...
And yeah he's finding out today if he gets a jail sentance. Personally I hope not because if it carries on, it will eventually bring about stricter laws and monitering of games. Look at all the sensorship laws at the minute, there was uproar because the xbox kinect thing "watches" you. Imagine what will happen if thing like this carry on. It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |
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Hessian Arcturus
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:57:00 -
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Linna Baresi wrote:Hessian Arcturus wrote:This is an absolute joke of a court case. EVE online better watch out because alot of us are always posting similar sh*t in local or somewhere. Apparently sarcasm is dead to the world now. What's your verdict on sarcasm in EVE people? EDIT: If you don't want to watch the youtube vid, links to the news article are in the description. I just find AlphaOmegaSin's reaction brilliant, and it pretty much mirrors my own view on the topic. I feel sorry for the kid, but it was bound to happen eventually, especially when people who watch in from the outside get involved. Stuff that's taken out of context, combined with not understanding gamer lingo, can lead to some pretty odd conclusions. And there is a LOT of prejudice about games and gamers to start with. Apparently we're all psychos who are rehearsing in game what we'd like to perpetrate in real life*... or so some media would have you believe. I'm pretty sure actual research shows gamers are LESS likely to have RL violent tendencies, but hey, who cares about facts when there's nicely bloodcurdling urban legends to be had... * so OK, I know this gaming lawyer who's THE worst in game price gouger you'll ever see, but let's call him an exception. Besides, his only contribution to violence is making his customers want to commit it.
I agree here far to much prejudice about gaming and the like. Thing is the majority of gamers, contrary to popular belief by the 'normal' community, can distinguish between real life and fantasy, as you probably very well know. It has gotten to the point where the 'normal' community (thanks to the media I guess?) have put us all in the same category.
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Hessian Arcturus wrote: Innocent but has been incarcerated for months while his date of his trial was to be decided and come around. Everyone at some point has said something sarcastically that they shouldn't have...
And yeah he's finding out today if he gets a jail sentance. Personally I hope not because if it carries on, it will eventually bring about stricter laws and monitering of games. Look at all the sensorship laws at the minute, there was uproar because the xbox kinect thing "watches" you. Imagine what will happen if thing like this carry on.
Therein lies the problem. Most people don't see a problem with this kind of thing. "It's for your own good" is being lapped up by useful idiots (pardon the Leninist phrasing) left and right. I once thought it was strange, but now it's getting downright pathetic.
This. It is such that its now the normal to say oh well its your own fault time to be punished. Problem is, yes while this guy clearly did something to offend someone, the punishment doesn't fit the crime. And it's getting more and more of a regular occurance. It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

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Posted - 2013.07.02 15:59:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:Any word yet on how the hearing went yesterday?
Been having a look around online but so far I can't find anything. If anyone else has any news, feel free to wack it up in this thread so we can find out please.
Although, I can see this court case lasting a few days. Could be wrong but... It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

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Posted - 2013.07.07 11:27:00 -
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jason hill wrote:errrm ... I`m sort of confused on this one so please enlighten me
a person in Canada takes offence about what someone says in another country and has that person prosecuted ?.
am I understanding this correctly ? sorry im not that clued up with international law ...but as far as I`m aware he actually hasn't broken any laws as far as I can see (he`s a fkn twatt for what he said ) but I don't believe 8 years in prison is justified
what ever happened to a punch in the face
please ...someone enlighten me on this one
Huffington post link to current story
Also, as far as I am aware, no current update on the verdict. It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

Hessian Arcturus
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Posted - 2013.07.07 11:55:00 -
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Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:From what I understand that there's been more than one or two incidents in American schools and colleges by teens who, for little reason, become unhinged and then end up on a killing spree.
I would imagine that the authorities are sick and tired of these incidents. The NRA wouldn't be too pleased neither because it'll put them in a negative light. Don't get me wrong, I am no supporter of the NRA but I can equally appreciate their frustrations as some idiot runs amok with automatic weapons; even the most dyed-in-the-wool NRA supporter woudl say that this isn't really what they want.
So, we have a young lad who then makes a threat which is completely out of order. The authorites have a number of choices; ignore him and hope he doesn't do anything stupid or, two, lock him up for a few days and tell him to grow a brain or, thirdly, make an example of him because (2) won't stop the next imbecile from mouthing off.
In the US one of the basic principles there is Free Speech. But that even has its limits; I thinkl that everyone understand that shouting "Fire" in a crowded theatre without reason is beyond the scope of free speech.
This is much the same; the lad made a threat and the sort of idot who makes such a threat which, let's face it no normal straight thinking person would, can be seen to the sort of person to go Postal.
I have no complaint about the possibility of the eight year term. He won't get it but he does deserve to be very worried about it and, perhaps, just perhaps, it may stop other idiots from issuing a threat before engaging the brain.
Same argument that has been made repeatedly in this thread and I have to dissagree. I have on many a time saod to someone "You do that and I swear to go i'll kill you" in a joking way. This kid, said something as a joke. He didn't plan to walk into the school. He didn't plan to eat the still beating hearts of the children. He didn't do anything wrong at all.
It is as you said, number three on your list. He is being made an example of and its being blown out of proportion. Whatvsort of world will we live in if everything is monitored and people are placed in prison becaise of jokes and things that are said in passing?
Im pretty sure everyone, yes everyone, has made a questionable comment at somepoint in their lives. Would people rather have people be held accountable for them via incarceration for months with a possibility of 8 years? If thats the case, might as well put every 12 year old foul mouthed COD player in jail if that's the case. When I used to play they always used to tell me they were coming to slit my throat or **** my mother or whatever. It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

Hessian Arcturus
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:20:00 -
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jason hill wrote:just out of interest .. does anyone have the name of the person who accused him ?.
You know the stupid thing, I don't think anyone does... I think they've kept it quiet, which is a massove contradiction of what theyre doing. If I am wrong then I apologise, honestly. Although saying that, even if I knew their name I dont think I'd want to be the one to post it... It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:29:00 -
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Max Godsnottlingson wrote:You know what.
While this certainly displayes the flaws within the US legal system, and that's not just knocking the US, as I gather that there is a similer case happening in the UK.
I actually find it difficult to have any sympathy at all for this rather stupid little boy.
"It was only a joke" The famous defence of just about every bully that has been caught out.
Trolls and so called 'hacktavist' have been pigging the world off for, as long as the internet has been about, and it looks like the worlds patience is starting to run out. The fact that I am typing this may be evidence, as once I would have been in the front line of shouting in support of the lad. But now it's more a case off "To***r, got what he deserves."
That is wrong I know, but perhaps it is evidence of how uncaring the world is becoming, I don't know. What I do know, is that this youth is not high on my list of priorities to beat a drum on to defend.
I agree with you completely when its to do with bullies and the like. But the fact of the matter was, he was technically the "victim" (in apostrophies because I couldnt think of the better word) that was called something and bit. His comment was in jest and reply to someones comment aimed at him. So its not a case of he was the bully that said it was a joke.
(dont mean to come off brash at you there, couldnt really word it like I wasnt having a go lol) It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |
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